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Friends Like Us

A Podcast featuring women of color with different views on hot topics. 

Jun 28, 2023

Shalita Grant from Netflix's "You" and TK Dutes visit friends and discuss natural hair freedom, how to treat 4C Hair with Four Natural Hair Care, the CROWN Act and more with host Marina Franklin.  

Shalita Grant, a Tony-nominated actress, made headlines when she courageously left a popular TV show due to her struggle with traction alopecia and hair damage, which affected her in front of millions of viewers. Determined to find a solution, she developed a groundbreaking plant-based hair treatment that addressed her own complex type 4 hair issues. This led her to establish Four Naturals Hair in her dining room in Toluca Lake, California in 2019, which has now expanded into a nationwide salon and home care treatment system. With its plant-based active ingredients, the Four Naturals Treatment has become a transformative solution for textured hair, allowing Shalita's characters to look their best. Through her brand, she has empowered her clients, lovingly called Curlfriends, to experience newfound freedom and confidence with their type 4 hair, whether on vacation or in their daily lives. Shalita's commitment to healing and uplifting Black women has also extended to developing a patent-pending textured hair detangling technique that brings pain-free and stress-free experiences to both mothers and their children. Despite her own hair struggles, Shalita chose to rise above and make a positive impact in the industry, while finding joy in her personal life with her partner, former MMA World Champion Jessica Aguilar, and their three dogs in Puebla, Mexico.

Keisha "TK" Dutes is a self professed "Rich Auntie" and a visual artist. You can find her experiments all over her IG page. She loves exploring the full potential of audio. Her experience spans terrestrial radio (WBAI-NY) , online (TK in The AM/Bondfire Radio), podcast (Buzzfeed's Thirst Aid Kit, Hear to Slay, etc) and audio drama, from W.E.B DuBois' The Comet, The Weeksvile Project, to Take Me To The Water - a 2020 Sarah Award winning piece for art history podcast, Accession.

The first project under her new company Philo's Future Media is Open World, a podcast anthology about better futures through science and tech in partnership with Rose Eveleth and Flash Forward Presents. It has been featured in The Bello Collective's 100 Outstanding podcasts of 2020 and listed as a Top Podcast of 2020 by Spotify.

TK spreads the gospel of radio/podcasting through workshops, mentorship, public speaking, and was listed on's "Black Talents in Public Media You Should Know.". She also serves on the board of the Association of Independents in Radio.

Always hosted by Marina Franklin - One Hour Comedy Special: Single Black Female ( Amazon Prime, CW Network), TBS's The Last O.G, Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, Hysterical on FX, The Movie Trainwreck, Louie Season V, The Jim Gaffigan Show, Conan O'Brien, Stephen Colbert, HBO's Crashing, and The Breaks with Michelle Wolf.